[MvM] Teleportation of bots

you could make the bomb drop and teleport to a point_teleport right at the teleporter's end

Waffe said:

Is teleporting the bombcarrier & co. to the other entrance point a better idea? Does the AI react to teleporting?

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Have you considered reverse-engineering the Coaltown map ? I don't know how the death pits work, but with a bit of luck they may be based on a teleporter, and then...

PoignardAzur said:

Have you considered reverse-engineering the Coaltown map ? I don't know how the death pits work, but with a bit of luck they may be based on a teleporter, and then...

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From my memory, Coaltown has a brush entity (forget which) that resets the bomb on trigger, same thing that's used in ctf maps with deathpits. It just teleports the flag back to the flag spawnpoint.
But the bomb doesn't actually appear at its spawnpoint, it's directly spawned onto a bot. Take a look at Mannworks, the bombs (there's a seperate flag for the ironman mission that is activated by the popfile) are actually in a small box outside of the skybox.

Bots already spawn at a random spawnpoint (place a spawnpoint with the same name on either the left and right side and make it spawn on that name). And whatever spawnpoint they start at the bomb also starts at.

This already can make it random enough. And even though PoignardAzur said coaltown, mannworks is a far more logical choise due to having 2 spawnpoints (and the sniper spawn can even be used as a 3rd alternative although it doesnt support random there).

WolfKit said:

From my memory, Coaltown has a brush entity that resets the bomb on trigger

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Diantre :/

But the bomb doesn't actually appear at its spawnpoint, it's directly spawned onto a bot.

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That's strange: there is no such thing in mvm_example : the bomb is spawned between robot spawnpoints

Take a look at Mannworks, the bombs (there's a seperate flag for the ironman mission that is activated by the popfile)

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Wait, wat ?

PoignardAzur said:

Diantre :/

That's strange: there is no such thing in mvm_example : the bomb is spawned between robot spawnpoints

Wait, wat ?

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Well, they don't NEED to stick the bomb outside of the map, but it doesn't need to be in the robot spawn either.
And yes there are two bombs in Mannworks. The ironman flag (which does have a reset timer) is disabled by default. The ironman popfile then triggers a different entity on wave start than the regular popfiles do, and this entity enables the ironman bomb and disables the regular bomb (while also triggering the bomb path nav_avoids into a different configuration).