CP Osiris b27

Imo it's not that easy to read, there is no differences between each paths you can take, everything looks the same, you know if i'm the attacker, go to the right or left path won't change a lot of things, there's nothing wich gives to one team an advantage to the other, you should consider to put some buildings wich create some rhythm to the game, like the barn on pl_goldrush for the cap1 stage 1, where everyone put his sentry, and camp to get some ammo/health, or the balcony on pl_badwater cp2.

I'm scared that this map in its state is just a playground where player just shoot them each others.

Keep in mind to create your balconies more large too, it's tf2, use at least 128 units for you balconies, I don't like to fall of a thing because it's too tight.

Some ideas :



Maybe add a sentry nest in front of the control point, put some ammo/health.



More large plz



Use more brushwork here, it will help you optimisation wise, and it's more fun to try to climb a tower than a model.



This area is clearly too tight, an heavy will never passes those pillars without getting hurt with the spam.

I don't think you can possible improve this further. A2 is the pinnacle of tf2 map design.

Sel said:

the pinnacle of tf2 map design.

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I think you overused those metal plates a bit, especially the lower half looks weird, like it's falling apart. Brushwork would look better in my opinion.

Fun map

CP A needs less blu-advantage

Cool theme! Did you look at any ancient egypt temple layouts and topdowns when planning this?

Did you get my suggestion as to an overhang at A? Like the one at badwater A, or outside Thundermountain spawn? There's a lot of really early good sentry spots, copying them might make holding a easier.

A has a height advantage to attackers, a width and "number of routes" advantage to attackers, and a "distance from spawn" advantage to attackers. I mean, sure, test it with more people, but I guess it'll still stay easy to attack.

Yeah I'm saying that based on the design not the test, more people would just mean more blu coming over the wall. There's no good spot for red to retreat to or hold up at near the point I feel. But there was an impromptu I missed so maybe you've changed it since?

It may be even harder to hold with more people: give blu more chance to use the width advantage.

I found that the temple area (middle) was really hard to navigate at first because of all the tight corridors and winding passageways. Consider widening and simplifying that area for better gameplay. The temple is one of the more covered areas, making it better for spies, but with the way it is now it just makes them more likely to bump into players.

The spires/ramps are also an interesting bit, but they're not really useful (again, the narrow ramps). Making the spire ramps about twice as wide as they are now would really help (that way you can actually fight on them without having to worry about falling off). You may also want to consider removing some of the ramps, because it is very repetitive and dull.

In terms of health and ammo, they seem fairly good, but you might want to consider decreasing the full ammos to half, and creating more small health kits. The full health on last is really bad for gameplay, because it allows for the defending team to really tank that point. I suggest demoting it to a small health kit/medium ammo, and moving it off the point. The attackers could also use some medium health kits more towars the point.

Overall, I think that this map could really use some general redesign, especially with the temple and the defender spawn. They both seem very cramped and hard to meneauver in, giving a lot of disadvantage to demos, snipers, and engies. I know that these are supposed to be balanced by the wide open areas, but this just creates a sense of imbalance in the map, like two opposites were smooshed together. It would be much better to have some obstruction over the whole map, and less yard space.

So have you been working on this map at all? Any juicy screenies for us to drool over? Real life problems in the way, or just not working on it?

It's been two weeks since the last post, one of which the SDk was broken for. Calm down, man.