Orphaned Projects Repository

MangyCarface

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Feb 26, 2008
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I definitely have a few undetailed alphas I'm not taking anywhere further, and seeing yyler post an open offer on his diner map kind of inspired a small idea-
Maybe have some section of the forums, or the site, dedicated to .vmfs that are free to develop- organize them by stage of progress, layout/functional alpha/detailed beta, sort of set up like the mapping showcase but w/ those categories.

This would help newer mappers step in at any level of the design phase and try their hand at detailing or fixing a map's issues. I'm sure among all of us we'd have quite a collection of 'discarded' work for others to pick up, and there'd have to be a posting rule something like "I hereby give up all my IP claims on this piece of work" so that newbies could actually own their finished products.

Thoughts?
 

Bermuda Cake

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Feb 20, 2009
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If you want to continue work on someone's abandoned map, it's good taste just to ask anyway. On the other hand, it could be nice to have somewhere for people to just dump unused maps, and have others browse and choose. But what happens if more than one person picks the same map?
 

Pocket

Half a Lambert is better than one.
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If you want to continue work on someone's abandoned map, it's good taste just to ask anyway.

As far as I can tell, this mainly hasn't been happening because people either tend to not admit when they've given up working on their map, or disappear from the site altogether around the time they do.
 

tyler

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I support organizing orphaned things together, but personally I'd rather be allowed to choose who gets something rather than anyone being able to grab it. Then again, if it isn't just available for download, maybe no one will grab it at all.
 

MangyCarface

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I support organizing orphaned things together, but personally I'd rather be allowed to choose who gets something rather than anyone being able to grab it. Then again, if it isn't just available for download, maybe no one will grab it at all.

What if you need explicit permission to use the same map name, but can edit it under other names otherwise? i.e. you could restrict new iterations to only 1 'canon' version of the original map, with other edits considered as entirely different maps
 

tyler

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That's good. I am going to release Diner like that right now.

E: done, we'll see what happens if anything.
 
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tyler

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Not sure what the rules would be, unless you want to force some kind of universal license or something (the one Mangy proposed is perfect imo).

It may be useful to have it be like the final showcase--only mods can move threads in. That way we don't get random people just posting orange maps into it.
 

Fruity Snacks

Creator of blackholes & memes. Destroyer of forums
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I can set it up so that it is Mods only.

What if you need explicit permission to use the same map name, but can edit it under other names otherwise? i.e. you could restrict new iterations to only 1 'canon' version of the original map, with other edits considered as entirely different maps

If this is what you mean, yea. Tie that in with Swordfish's idea of given credit to the original author, and I think that might work.

Discuss this further.
 

tyler

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That's what I mean. It all works for me like that, but obviously other people need to input some thoughts.
 

henke37

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I say, it seems that we can't agree on once license for submissions here. So why just not allow a few different ones and have the author pick one at submission time?
 

Bloodhound

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My idea was similar to frozens, but it would need a bit extra effort.
Not a sub-forum, a website, with all orphaned projects, similar to our FB site.
Each map has it's on profil, with images, bsp and description.
You can ask the mapper via a click on a button about the source files and if he agrees you'll get them.

The big advantage would be, that you could easily filter/search for maps, for example:
ctf, tested (means layout got tested), undetailed
Of course we have to make some standardized terms for this.
 

Tarry H Sruman

Large Orphanage Proprietor
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Jul 31, 2011
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I think that posting a bsp/screenshots and having people "apply" is probably the best system. That way you can work out credit/etc on a case-by-case basis with the person who will be working on your project. And of course, if you don't want to deal with that, you can always just say "whoever wants it can have it," especially if you aren't active on the forums anymore.
 

Boylee

pew pew pew
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I have a couple of maps that I'd put in but I'd like to be able to at least talk to the person who wants to continue working on them. Nobody wants to see something they've poured hours into turn into cp_orange_z_365_turbo after all. ;)

ctf_chicane would probably be first up to bat.