Hammer performance

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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So, I'm just wondering what might be effecting how poorly hammer performs on my computer. Heres whats wrong:

First is really the SDK. It takes forever to launch after clicking it in the steam list, and I'm talking 3-5 minutes. If I have music or something running, you can hear it lag out like mad. It has been this why since I started working with the the SDK. However, I have a shity laptop that launches it easily. Ideas?

The second is the big one right now. This has been going on since I upgraded my graphics card (though I've only used hammer once since then). Basically, whenever I'm using the 3D view its very laggy. This makes it difficult, and more importantly, frustrating to deal with, so I don't have the patience reburied to just sit down and map. Thoughts?


Anyways, hopefully someone knows of something to fix my issues. Thanks for the help :)
 

Armadillo of Doom

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I had similar issues on my old computer. The culprit is usually the physical amount of ram you have. Unfortunately, diverting video memory doesn't have a noticeable impact. What are your specs? Before launching the sdk, bring up the processes window and shut down all non-essentials; internet, music stuff, ims, even the main steam app window if need be. Odds are though, you'll just have to invest in a couple large memory sticks. Good luck m8 :)
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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I'm too lazy to type, so I'm copying what steam says :)

Processor Information:
Vendor: AuthenticAMD
Speed: 2211 Mhz
1 logical processor
1 physical processor
HyperThreading: Unsupported
FCMOV: Supported
SSE2: Supported

Network Information:
Network Speed:

Windows Version:
Windows XP (32 bit)
NTFS: Supported

Video Card:
Driver: ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
DirectX Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.10.6806
DirectX Driver Version: 6.14.10.6806
Driver Date: 12 May 2008
Desktop Color Depth: 16 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 60 Hz
DirectX Card: ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series
VendorID: 0x1002
DeviceID: 0x9598
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Desktop Resolution: 1680 x 1050
Primary Display Size: 18.90" x 11.81" (22.28" diag)
48.0cm x 30.0cm (56.6cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: 1024 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x


Sound card:
Audio device: Plantronics Headset

Memory:
RAM: 2815 Mb

Miscellaneous:
UI Language: English
Microphone: Not set
Media Type: DVD
Total Hard Disk Space Available: 152625 Mb
Largest Free Hard Disk Block: 5525 Mb
OS Install Date: Jun 12 2005
Installed Packages: Firefox,Windows Firewall
 

Laz

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I got a major boost in hammer performance especially in big maps when I upgraded from 1gb ram to 3gb ram.
The entire map gets loaded into ram, I dont think your video card has much to do with it.
 

apocguy

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I noticed that you mentioned that your recently updated your video card. Did you update your drivers?
 

drp

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2.2 single core cpu needs to go :D
upgrade!
 

Armadillo of Doom

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lol the cpu is fine for Hammer. But playing TF2 on that thing is another story. Are you sure that ram reading is correct? There's a big difference between Kernel memory and Physical memory. 2815 mb isn't even enough to run windows, lol :( If you like, I can link you to some good deals. I put built my current rig for just over 5 big ones, and that includes my copy of Oblivion on DVD. Anyways, I stand by my previous statement; get a ram upgrade, and you should see a big increase in Hammer performance.
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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Keep in mind the CPU is an AMD, so its equal to the performance of a 3.4 GHz Intel. :-D

Yeah, that ram should be about right. I've got 3 gigs, though 250 is read because of a flaw in the 4th slot of my motherboard. ATI has released a recent driver update, and I did that. Seems to have fixed the in hammer issues, though I've only messed around with it a bit. However, the SDK is still slow to launch.
 

Tigger

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1. Check to make sure your hard disk isn't terribly fragmented.
2. Use windows task manager to see how much memory is being used by your various apps.
3. Make sure your WinXP is up to Service Pack 2.
4. Do you have a virus checker on? If so, tell it to ignore your sourcesdk folders. Otherwise it will do a virus scan on every file you open.
 

MrAlBobo

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Are you sure that ram reading is correct? There's a big difference between Kernel memory and Physical memory. 2815 mb isn't even enough to run windows, lol :( If you like, I can link you to some good deals. I put built my current rig for just over 5 big ones, and that includes my copy of Oblivion on DVD. Anyways, I stand by my previous statement; get a ram upgrade, and you should see a big increase in Hammer performance.

Keep in mind the CPU is an AMD, so its equal to the performance of a 3.4 GHz Intel. :-D

Yeah...im confused a bit by 2 things here...
1st...over 2gb of ram seems like plenty...
2nd...ive always heard the opposite of what darker said...

srry to drag this off topic a bit...but this surprised me...
 

TheDarkerSideofYourShadow

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1. Check to make sure your hard disk isn't terribly fragmented.
2. Use windows task manager to see how much memory is being used by your various apps.
3. Make sure your WinXP is up to Service Pack 2.
4. Do you have a virus checker on? If so, tell it to ignore your sourcesdk folders. Otherwise it will do a virus scan on every file you open.

Might be #1. Other computer has tons of extra room so it defragments nicely. This one, not so much.

I've got 2883048K of physical member, according to the task manager, and currently I have 2324xxx available. Should be plenty.

Have SP2.

No on the virus checker.