Carving In Displacements?

Da_Man

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Aug 23, 2009
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Carving a displacement is a horrible idea.
However, you can't have been the only one to ask. Here is a tutorial on how to put holes in displacements: HERE
 

Muggie

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Mar 9, 2011
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Thanks. I'm really new to map making and Source SDK in general. Yeah, I meant holes. Sorry for the noobish question...
 

REEJ

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Aug 26, 2010
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Get down to the basics of how displacements connect, make 4 connected brush trapezoids... you got a hole already and NOW make it displacement.
 

gamemaster1996

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Sep 30, 2009
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Please don't carve :D
 

Da_Man

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Aug 23, 2009
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It's a useful tool when its a rectangular brush carving another rectangular brush. Otherwise, it's just a clusterfuck.
 

The_Ulf

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May 26, 2009
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As stated, you don't wanna/can't carve a displacement brush, so split it up along the edges of whatever you need to fit into it.
 

Terr

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  • As others said: Carving = Recipe for Disaster
  • As REEJ said: You want to remember that everything has to be a quad!

For more on the last point, I highly suggest you read the VDC page: Creating Holes in Displacements
 

ardysqrrl

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Oct 26, 2009
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I like the way this person said "carve" as a general way to mean poking a hole in something and then the entire forums come down on him thinking he means the carve tool

Terr's link is how it's done by the way
 

Mr. Happy

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Jul 16, 2008
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Best way to tell if someone is inexperienced: they say not to carve. This is especially true when a bunch of people line up in a row for the opportunity to repeat each other. This lemming phenomenon is also often seen when people mention subdivide or 'make hollow'.


The only reason people don't use carve is because that is DOCTRINE. And like all doctrine, it is wrong.

For example, the reason Muslims don't eat pork is because they never learned to cook it at a high enough temperature to kill the parasites.
The reason mappers don't use carve is because they never learned to use it with brushes that have simple and complete intersections.

There is nothing wrong with the carve tool, it works EXACTLY as expected and is VERY useful if you know what to expect.

Some people will respond "oh don't use carve is just something we tell new people." Well, you should instead tell them "carve can SOMETIMES give weird results if you use it with weird shapes or shapes that don't fully intersect."

Others may reply "you should make your own brushes." This is usually stated by people that have made less than ten maps and think it is a point of pride that they have wasted many hours that could have been saved by cloning, hollowing, and carving.
 
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Mr. Happy

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Jul 16, 2008
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lol :)

that's not the point
but I know I probably won't convince anyone of the benefits of carve

so lol :)
 

ardysqrrl

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Oct 26, 2009
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that's cause there aren't any and clipping is faster in the long run