CP Frostline

Three stage attack and defend! My design places the three stages in a stack, like a wedding cake, with the main route spiraling up the edge of a mountain around a central core. The central core is a giant cave that each stage will have small routes that border it's edge. The final point will be on a rock outcropping above everything else in the cave. I'll upload my drawings tommorow.

Style wise: alpine, transitioning from dirt/grass in the first stage to snow on the third.

For the first test the map was called aspiration.

Psy said:

It's an alpha. They might be temporary until he can come up with something that has more context.

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This. It's the second alpha for which I'm just experimenting with the shape of cover. Third alpha will have layout changes, and thanks for that pic you drew seba I was thinking that that needed to change. I'm considering splitting the lower route in half as well, so that the first part doesn't connect to the second part and you are forced back up onto the main area for a few yards.

Fixed a couple random bugs. 1A3: http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4516

Updated to alpha 4 with major layout changes. I moved the blu spawn forward and used it to block the lower doors into the cave and adjacent room. The thinking behind this was that people were using those entrances to go through the cave to B straight away as the main path rather than as a risky-but-advantageous-for-blu-engy side path. I may further disconnect it from the side cave as I left in the drop down to the main cave from the side cave if need be. I also changed the way the tunnel that is between A and B connects to the bottom of the main cave, and the way the bottom of the main cave connects to the rear CP B route to make them shorter and riskier (fall death).

Further more I revamped the lower route. Since the blu spawn was moved forward and that first area edited the edge of the cliff now starts at the main ground height and does not decrease until the (now simplified) first stair case. Also, the lower route is taller to decrease the trapped feeling. Also I added an awning over part of it to protect it from Red @ A. All in all the lower route should be more viable as a side route in the event that red locks down A.

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4523

Thanks for your comments dude, and thanks to everyone who played it and left comments in the feedback system.

I've updated the map hugely:

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4574

1A8
I rechecked the feedback system after releasing 1A7 and decided to update real quick. Sorry to the three people that downloaded 1A7! Thanks to yyler for the following ideas:
*changed red side cave entrance so it requires a trick jump from blu-side (original intent was for it to help red engies)
*changed sightline from blu side building. Can no longer jump in window or snipe sentrys in CP
*adjusted cave health
*adjusted hints
*minor displacement tweaks


1A7
Still just the first stage but much improved in all ways. I got alot of great feedback from everyone, here's a few specific things people asked for:

*improved dbl-jumping to first point
*removed extraneous 'back-door' routes (left in a couple balconeys for jumpers though)
*made second point more defensible
--geometry
--increased cap timer 1 second (first cp too)
*enlarged building that leads to second point back route
*reworked a couple ralings
*lower areas should be alot more useful and their structure should make more sense for their intended function

Also I:
*reworked optimization completely
--better hinting and map structure, greatly reduced overdraw and extraneous vis
--added fade distances
--do need to REMOVE some hints since there are many extraneous leafs
*better areaportals
*func_lod's

*smoothed flow in some routes to match function better
*removed a stair to first cp
*adjusted signs

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4574










Caves simplified even further





http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=4574

Updated to 1a9 for the impromptu today:
*closed off sloppy spare routes
*reduced health/ammo
*blocked off route to lower balconey over blu spawn
*rebuilt approach to B
*shortened approach to B

2a0 is COMING SOON (for friday gameday):

Thanks for the feedback. I'll definitely change it up, gonna test it a bit more as it is now though since I've focused on the second stage (which the screenshot above no longer reflects, and will be uploaded soon) and since some people say "too hard to defend" and some people say "too hard to attack," well, I want to collect more datas.