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Really? Must have been on my team because I didn't notice 
Well that is a little troubling, but I don't want to open up the windows above the mid cap because it let soldiers/demos camp it (effectively), althought I might with the changes I plan to make for a3.
BASICALLY, a2 is what I would consider a failure. Every change I made had a better alternative or didn't need to be made at all. So, I'm making a3 off of the skeleton of a1c. I'm going to raise some areas on the map so that engies can't get up there, and I'm also going to open up the glass again in hopes that it could curb this heavy effect. Unfortunately this means there were very little changes between a1 and a3.
This worries me because I think it could be indicative of a big problem going under the radar, which is what happened with thunderclap(it played like a dm map, not a 5cp map).
Expect a3 tonight, very few changes make for a very quick release.
Well that is a little troubling, but I don't want to open up the windows above the mid cap because it let soldiers/demos camp it (effectively), althought I might with the changes I plan to make for a3.
BASICALLY, a2 is what I would consider a failure. Every change I made had a better alternative or didn't need to be made at all. So, I'm making a3 off of the skeleton of a1c. I'm going to raise some areas on the map so that engies can't get up there, and I'm also going to open up the glass again in hopes that it could curb this heavy effect. Unfortunately this means there were very little changes between a1 and a3.
This worries me because I think it could be indicative of a big problem going under the radar, which is what happened with thunderclap(it played like a dm map, not a 5cp map).
Expect a3 tonight, very few changes make for a very quick release.
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Hooray koth_zero_g_a3!
I'll get right down to it. As I said above, I really didn't like a2. So, here's a3! The newest (as of now) version of zero_g!
Changelog
+Removed all changes made in a2 (except some clipping changes)
+Added some detailing to the mid building and high bridge
+Removed small scaffolding from middle bridge
+Removed areaportals from mid building
+Raised heights of mid building and high bridge to prevent engie camping
+Raised playerclip height to be just below skybox height
Now, screenshots!
A new overhead of Zero G
Shot to the side showcasing the glasswork on the new building
Shot from inside the mid building showing the two new doors (and platforms/hand rails) I added to the room.
Shot looking out from the high bridge (you finally know what it is! :O) into red spawn, my god saying shot this much makes me feel like a photographer D:
There's not that much going on in this update aside from detail, so if anyone has any feedback or comments they want to share about the map, now is the time! I'm considering going over to beta soon if there isn't much people have to say about the map, so please say it now!
I'll get right down to it. As I said above, I really didn't like a2. So, here's a3! The newest (as of now) version of zero_g!
Changelog
+Removed all changes made in a2 (except some clipping changes)
+Added some detailing to the mid building and high bridge
+Removed small scaffolding from middle bridge
+Removed areaportals from mid building
+Raised heights of mid building and high bridge to prevent engie camping
+Raised playerclip height to be just below skybox height
Now, screenshots!
A new overhead of Zero G
Shot to the side showcasing the glasswork on the new building
Shot from inside the mid building showing the two new doors (and platforms/hand rails) I added to the room.
Shot looking out from the high bridge (you finally know what it is! :O) into red spawn, my god saying shot this much makes me feel like a photographer D:
There's not that much going on in this update aside from detail, so if anyone has any feedback or comments they want to share about the map, now is the time! I'm considering going over to beta soon if there isn't much people have to say about the map, so please say it now!
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I know I know I know
I'm going to tone it down, but the map is supposed to be a bit gimmicky so it's part of the core gameplay of it. I don't know whether it affects grenades from demos though, if it does then I shall have to find an alternate way about the gravity.
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Updated to koth_zero_g_a4!
DOWNLOAD LINK HERE
No new screenies since it's mostly the same as far as looks go, but here's the changelog.
Changelog:
+Moved capture point to the middle building
+Clipped the entire roof of middle building
+Raised gravity to .73 of normal
+Added additional small health packs to the outside areas of the map
+Changed brushwork in spawns to make other exits more apparent
Please download, test & enjoy!
DOWNLOAD LINK HERE
No new screenies since it's mostly the same as far as looks go, but here's the changelog.
Changelog:
+Moved capture point to the middle building
+Clipped the entire roof of middle building
+Raised gravity to .73 of normal
+Added additional small health packs to the outside areas of the map
+Changed brushwork in spawns to make other exits more apparent
Please download, test & enjoy!
main problems in the test was that the most cramped areas (capture point and the shortest path) were most taken and they weren't as fun to fight on as the big open space that no one took. it was also very easy to spawn camp, and i felt there was too much health (although it allowed for some interesting battles).
earlier you were talking about quitting mapping, and i dont think you should. very fun map.
earlier you were talking about quitting mapping, and i dont think you should. very fun map.
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Thanks alot
I'm going to try to make something larger of the middle building, probably expand it into the open space at its sides by a few units. I'm also going to try flipping the area where the previous cap was to face the middle building, effectively creating a bowl/arena that would be next to the middle building. I would be removing the area behind the previous point though. I'm also hoping that flipping the previous point will allow me to put in some buildings in the open space to nerf the scout dominating power.
I'm going to try to make something larger of the middle building, probably expand it into the open space at its sides by a few units. I'm also going to try flipping the area where the previous cap was to face the middle building, effectively creating a bowl/arena that would be next to the middle building. I would be removing the area behind the previous point though. I'm also hoping that flipping the previous point will allow me to put in some buildings in the open space to nerf the scout dominating power.
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Thinking of what should go in the open spaces/areas, that aside, this is what I have for a5.
Comments appreciated if you have any
Comments appreciated if you have any
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koth_zero_g_a4 has been updated!
Introducing koth_zero_g_a5!
Changelog
+Reworked previous hill area keeping the base structure intact
+Added various effects around the map, namely to lifts
+Expanded middle building to be longer along the Y-axis
+Small changes to light color indoors to create a more noticeable contrast between in and outdoors.
Screenshots!
The lifts now have visual and audio effects! I'll probably bring this over to thunderclap too.
The new back area of the map, reworked from the skeleton of the previous point's structure now rotated 180 degrees and re-incorporated with the map.
The new middle building complete with CP: a little wider around the waist.
A new alpha deserves a new overhead-ish picture!
Please test and DOWNLOAD!
Bonus points for those who notice the lighting change
Introducing koth_zero_g_a5!
Changelog
+Reworked previous hill area keeping the base structure intact
+Added various effects around the map, namely to lifts
+Expanded middle building to be longer along the Y-axis
+Small changes to light color indoors to create a more noticeable contrast between in and outdoors.
Screenshots!
The lifts now have visual and audio effects! I'll probably bring this over to thunderclap too.
The new back area of the map, reworked from the skeleton of the previous point's structure now rotated 180 degrees and re-incorporated with the map.
The new middle building complete with CP: a little wider around the waist.
A new alpha deserves a new overhead-ish picture!
Please test and DOWNLOAD!
Bonus points for those who notice the lighting change
How did you get that refracting glass?
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Just so I'm clear on what should be changed for a6 (a reminder to myself as well):
Doing:
+move most of the powerups to the lower end of the map
+pak voids model in this time
+spawncamping, spawn camping, spawn camping
+add a few more entrances into the cap building
Considering:
+possibly making spawns across from each other, with the middle point in the middle
Doing:
+move most of the powerups to the lower end of the map
+pak voids model in this time
+spawncamping, spawn camping, spawn camping
+add a few more entrances into the cap building
Considering:
+possibly making spawns across from each other, with the middle point in the middle
i was going to suggest the health thing. Also, i'd have liked to use those lift things to rocket around the roof and onto the point, but if that's not possible dont fuss.
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I'm not too sure which roof you're talking about
The roof for the middle building was unclipped in (if I remember correctly) alpha 2-4, but I closed it off as it was too problematic as soldiers and demos got an amazing advantage.
I'd love to add more lifts, but I honestly can't think where they're needed. Also, the current lift was a bit of a mistake, I jacked up the push speed because the player would hit the far wall, so it didn't matter how fast they were going
The roof for the middle building was unclipped in (if I remember correctly) alpha 2-4, but I closed it off as it was too problematic as soldiers and demos got an amazing advantage.
I'd love to add more lifts, but I honestly can't think where they're needed. Also, the current lift was a bit of a mistake, I jacked up the push speed because the player would hit the far wall, so it didn't matter how fast they were going
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Updated to koth_zero_g_a6!
I won't lie to you men, this one was a quickie. Why? I'm experimenting with this layout before I make any decisions. Those decisions would be to move the spawn areas to the sides of the map, not the top. No pictures this time, just a mini update.
Changelog:
+Removed windows looking out from spawn, replaced them with angled slats
+Moved the majority of power ups to the lower portion of the map to increase traffic there
+Slight adjustments to the lighting
I won't lie to you men, this one was a quickie. Why? I'm experimenting with this layout before I make any decisions. Those decisions would be to move the spawn areas to the sides of the map, not the top. No pictures this time, just a mini update.
Changelog:
+Removed windows looking out from spawn, replaced them with angled slats
+Moved the majority of power ups to the lower portion of the map to increase traffic there
+Slight adjustments to the lighting
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I liked it, but I feel like the main point is too simple and not the main part of the map. I felt most of the battles happened in that area to the left/right of spawns, with the giant hole in the top level, and the low-grav thing at the bottom. I also don't like that I'll fall back down to the bottom if I take the push in the middle part (about 50% of the space at the bottom)
if that makes sense
if that makes sense
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The push in the middle part?