Need Help!

Peligrino · Jun 25, 2010

Hi, I'm not only new to the forums, I'm making my first map! I have quite a lot of questions to ask, and if this thread isn't in the right place please notify me/move it! Anyways here goes nothing:

My map is island themed, with a lot of twists so don't worry about another goddamn island map.

It's 5 point CP, and while I have a lot of ideas for stuff around the points, I cant really think of anything interesting in between them, I included two symmetrical mountain ranges, but still have a lot of empty space!

What can I use to fill that space and make it interesting/fit in with the motif/ and still be balanced?

How do I make hemi-spheres or cylinders using the brush tool?

Should I make the map out of one giant brush with displacements or should I break it up, and if so why should I do this?

How can I cut holes into my mountains for tunnels WITHOUT USING CARVE? Or is there another way to make a large mountain and include tunnels in it?

Thanks a lot in advance, I look forward to posting the map and eventually play testing!

megawac · Jun 25, 2010

It's 5 point CP, and while I have a lot of ideas for stuff around the points, I cant really think of anything interesting in between them, I included two symmetrical mountain ranges, but still have a lot of empty space!What can I use to fill that space and make it interesting/fit in with the motif/ and still be balanced?

I'd start with sparadic buildings, rocks, and hills. I'd recommend avoiding trees for numerous reasons.

All really depends on the theme of the map.

How do I make hemi-spheres or cylinders using the brush tool?

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Hammer_New_Objects_Toolbar or vertex manipulation.

Should I make the map out of one giant brush with displacements or should I break it up, and if so why should I do this?

Break it up, later as you learn and understand the tendicies of hammer and how stuff works you'll know how to optimize and create a playable map.
http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Optimization_(level_design)
http://rvanhoorn.ruhosting.nl/optimization.php?chapter=intro

How can I cut holes into my mountains for tunnels WITHOUT USING CARVE? Or is there another way to make a large mountain and include tunnels in it?
You divide the brushes that make up the displacements. Heres a great tutorial: http://forums.tf2maps.net/showthread.php?t=798

Thanks a lot in advance, I look forward to posting the map and eventually play testing!

See you later, good luck!

Peligrino · Jun 25, 2010

Thanks a lot! Yeah, I've read the optimization tutorial, and I understand how I can work it out. Thanks a lot for your post!
Why avoid trees however?

megawac · Jun 25, 2010

Im talking more about the evergreens which have several points against them. The main ones being green isnt a very nice color in tf2's colour scheme and the second being the trees have pretty bad physics allowing players to shoot through them, hide sentries or hide themselves.

Grim Tuesday · Jun 25, 2010

For spheres, and hemispheres, try Twister:

http://www.users.on.net/~imperialcarp/Twister/Twister.html

To add to what Megawac said, you should avoid trees in gameplay areas. Trees are fine behind fences, in skyboxes, etc...

The only map that has a succesful tree in in is Landfall, and that tree takes up half the map.

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