[WIP] CP_OILRIG * Alpha 4

for the hdr issue - do you have an Env tonemap controller in the map ?

http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Env_tonemap_controller

clip and player clip are different - as the name suggests - playerclip will block the player and not objects- useful for restricting player access and smoothing out the edges of places - to make the player flow around the level - clip will block everything - i.e projectiles etc - most of the time you will use playerclip, but sometimes clip is useful for preventing an engineer placing things were you dont want them to, or even creating a false floor for players to actually build on,

You would be suprised just where an engineers can get to when he starts jumping on his sentry and placing teleporter exits

Looks pretty damn cool. I can't wait to see how it plays. I kind of like the day setting more...Its kind of scary staring off into the black void of night (reminds me of old Q3 maps..). IIRC, the original oilrig was at more of a dusk setting, maybe that would work well.

Just played b1 of this map, and have a couple gameplay issues.

First, the team blockers on some of the doors I think do more harm than good for the attacking team. Specifically those leading towards point C. As a blue engineer I ran past red players down to B, where I hopped in the vent and set up a teleporter exit and sentry in the small room there. However, rather than go out the vent leading to point B, my teammates went up the big one leading to C, and discovered they had no way to go through the doors to get back to A. The blockers should probably go, not just because they prevent teleport flanking, but because they prevent tactics such as pushing into those hallways with a heavy and a couple medics and holding off defenders long enough to get A capped.

The second issue is with the door that leads from A to "Elevator 8". The area there by the elevator and vent exit became a serious chokepoint that was near impossible to break. It wasn't until red actually pushed blue back to point A that anyone got past that chokepoint, and that's only because the engineers broke their sentries down to try to move them forward. Even one path to C that doesn't lead to that exact spot would be a big plus.

The third and final issue is the red "back tunnels". I probably wandered around point C and behind red spawn for like four minutes before I realized none of it led to points A or B. It's a lot of interesting pathways, but it's a shame it doesn't really go anywhere useful. You could possibly break some of it away from being "spawn area" and connect it to B, and then you'd have an alternate route from B to C for blue to potentially use.

You may have gotten this answer already but I believe the yellow squares you are seeing are from decals created by bullets and such.

Are you going to put your map forward for the gameday? I'd like to try this map out on a full server.

Go post in this thread.

Garbageman,

We got to run through this map before gameday, and it was overwhelmingly impressive. Awesome detail and good fps all around. Really a great map for larger number of players, interesting things done all around and a great job.

Still, suggestions haha:
Lights in blue spawn/first cap point way too yellow- they wash out your nice detailing.
2d Skybox needs work but I think you know that.
Your water should be inside your skybox and should have some sort of reflections, it feels like looking into blackness at the moment. Additionally some of the farther away oil platforms just look like fire floating in midair.
That's about my only complaints at the moment. Can't wait to play on gameday.

One more thing I just thought of. If you hang a left coming out of blue spawn, you can go up a ladder and wend your way along what looks like an access catwalk, but all it does it lead to a door to the vent room that doesn't open.

If that path is just meant to be detail, it should probably be clipped off and inaccessible. On the other hand, it seems like it could make for a good way for blue to get around to B or C if red has a heavy defense at the top of the stairs/ramp to A, which both exit to more or less the same spot.

I think the #1 priority is to lower the cap times.

They seem to be at Gravelpit A&B length, which I think get away with it because Red and Blu spawn at about the same distance from them.

Played this map on the server earlier today. I haven't read previous posts, but here's my criticisms.

First of all, wow...as far as the detail goes, this map is awesomely done. Good work there.

The issues I've got are these:
1. You can build pretty-near much anywhere. Some nobuilds would be helpful there.
2. The cap times are too long. We had a 5x5 going for awhile and neither team could cap on the first point. By the time you were a little over halfway capping, the other team would spawn and wipe you out.
3. As a recommendation, the defending team should not be able to access the rest of the map. Maybe trigger some door locks.

Otherwise, superb map. Please make more.

Couple of things I noticed during yesterday's playtest that I didn't see Saturday.

At point A, you can get up on the pipes to the left when you come out of the spawn, which is fine, except you can get on the next level up, and if you stand up, you look down through the top area, which has nodraw textures. I'll get a screen of this to show you what I mean.

Also, at point A, you've got the small ammo sitting on a crate to the right of the point. Its a bit of a pain to actually get in there to get it.


Edit: Here's that screen.