CP Glacier RC6

zpqrei · Dec 13, 2009

I know there is a time gap, but I lol'd:

Acegikmo · Dec 13, 2009

Hehe, well I felt like going back to glacier for a while

Pc_Madness · Dec 13, 2009

Am I the only one who finds the rock texture on the bridge at ..B a bit odd? I love it at A since it fits in with the buildings nicely, but it being used at B as well makes it feel less unique.

Just something I noticed going from RC to RC6.

Also a bit of light bleeding (is that the term?) at B.
setpos -2129.471436 -1826.031250 594.698425;setang 42.767982 -110.747543 0.000000

Beautiful looking map though.

absurdistof · Dec 13, 2009

Could you release the snow/ice textures you used? Unless they already are...

Please?

They're beautiful...

Acegikmo · Dec 14, 2009

Pc_Madness said:
Am I the only one who finds the rock texture on the bridge at ..B a bit odd? I love it at A since it fits in with the buildings nicely, but it being used at B as well makes it feel less unique.
Just something I noticed going from RC to RC6.
Also a bit of light bleeding (is that the term?) at B.
setpos -2129.471436 -1826.031250 594.698425;setang 42.767982 -110.747543 0.000000
Beautiful looking map though.

Thanks! It has now been fixed.

absurdistof said:
Could you release the snow/ice textures you used? Unless they already are...

Please? They're beautiful...

If Valve want to make glacier official, they will be released!
Otherwise I probably won't release them until glacier hits the final version, which is probably never going to happen.

UFO · Dec 14, 2009

Actually, I was suprised by your map's new release. And I was suprised a bit there were no optimization improvements.
I thought this one and may be ctf_aurora were going to become official with incoming update as a part of christmas/winter theme update...
But I hope Valve won't miss such a good map

The Gentlemanne · Dec 14, 2009

Valve already acknowledged this map...So I have faith in it becoming official.

Acegikmo · Dec 14, 2009

UFO said:
Actually, I was suprised by your map's new release. And I was suprised a bit there were no optimization improvements.

Rc7 will have some optimization improvements at C and B. However, these optimizations may be calcelled out by the visual upgrades I've added. Hopefully not!

UFO said:
I thought this one and may be ctf_aurora were going to become official with incoming update as a part of christmas/winter theme update...

So did I. They said they would try glacier last week, but they haven't mailed me back about it yet, neither have I heard from Mangy regarding aurora.
In fact, I started mailing them about glacier 5 months ago, without any response yet. In total, I've mailed about beta 1, rc2, rc3, rc5 and rc6 when they were released.

Tinker · Dec 23, 2009

I know you're probably not working on this much anymore, but there's two minor suggestions I have after playing rc6 for a while on a 24, normal respawn server:

- Increase the capture zone of point A to the entire platform the cap is located on. It's annoying to need to cluster in the middle of it while you kind of want to move around and look for enemies because the capzone itself is so small.

- Decrease the cap time of point B slightly. It's a very easily bombardable and very hazardous spot to stay, and people often tend to stray away from the cap itself because it doesn't feel safe (and it isn't). The rather long capture time for this point doesn't help alleviate that feeling.

Great work on this map, though, it plays and looks great!

Pocket · Jan 9, 2010

Hi. You may remember me from the most recent comment on FPSBanana. I had one other thing I wanted to mention, but it was better I did so here, where there's plenty of room. The restroom doors — they're a clever little touch, but they stand out from the official textures pretty badly, due to (A) the use of the TF2 font and (B) the fact that restroom doors aren't supposed to have windows. I could describe what I think would look better but it was more fun to try to make it instead:

Yay for too much free time. I guess as long as I'm picking nits, the handles stand out too, since no other doors in the game have them, and aren't really necessary since most restroom doors (unfortunately) open inward.

Really looking forward to seeing this finished. Overall this map gives Valve a run for their money(ed mapmakers).

TMP · Jan 9, 2010

Does anyone get mad at THIS MAN for making 7 Release Candidates?

Ahahah, sorry man, it's kinda funny. Map is cool.

lana · Jan 9, 2010

TMP said:
Does anyone get mad at THIS MAN for making 7 Release Candidates?

Ahahah, sorry man, it's kinda funny. Map is cool.

He did create a new theme that Valve failed to credit him with. It takes more fine tuning than most maps.

ChickenLover · Jan 9, 2010

Nerdboy said:
He did create a new theme that Valve failed to credit him with. It takes more fine tuning than most maps.

He got an entire blog post about it.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2732
Two sort of.
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=2734

Not to mention they went back and updated the update page and mentioned him by name and the map name.
http://www.teamfortress.com/classless/day02.php

Also, a snow theme isn't exactly an original idea.

Void · Jan 9, 2010

TMP said:
Does anyone get mad at THIS MAN for making 7 Release Candidates?

Ahahah, sorry man, it's kinda funny. Map is cool.

Well Ace clearly knows what he's doing from the start.

Perfection takes lots of time, and then some.

Acegikmo · Feb 28, 2010

Just wanted to let you guys know that cp_glacier_a1's birthday is today

Time flies, doesn't it?

The Political Gamer · Feb 28, 2010

Anyone remember the original C? Good times.

DaBeatzProject · Feb 28, 2010

Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you!

Happy birthday dear glacier,
Happy birthday to you!

I'd like to know though, how many meters did the glacier melt since last year?

Get it?

Global warming?

lana · Feb 28, 2010

DaBeatzProject said:
Happy birthday to you,
Happy birthday to you!

Happy birthday dear glacier,
Happy birthday to you!

I'd like to know though, how many meters did the glacier melt since last year?

Get it? Global warming?

Six, unfortunately

Acegikmo · Apr 8, 2010

I just got a mail from Valve, thought you guys might want to see it:

Hi joachim,
We were able to finally playtest cp_glacier today (I assume it was the newest version), here is some feedback I received from our level designers:

· Map is very large with long travel times to each cap point
· Confusing layout hard to figure out which point is which.
o Signage indicates direction to go but when arriving at the cap point it isn't clear which one you've arrived at.
o Lots of tunnels and passages.
o Cap points are hard to find in the first two capture areas, always tucked down and out of the way. A is reverse from the way you enter the zone. B is down below hidden away from view.
· Visuals
o The art feels disjointed, the snow doesn't blend well with the ice, feels jarring but it may be the shape of the ice instead. Pillars of ice with wood jutting out of it is odd, I wouldn't have expected that structure to exist.
o Buildings often have a mixture of textures that pulls your eye to the wrong spots. For example the Blue spawn building uses blue brick work and then a darker blue brick for support pillars.

From another designer:

"The theme is nice and clean and the spaces themselves had a good variety of geometry. I had a problem with the layout of the map though. By splitting the game between two points to start with (A and B), you promote dividing teams up and creating ‘wrong’ choices for players who know no better. For example, should red be in force at point A, a blue guy heads there and has no chance because his team mates are in B and is outnumbered. He wasn’t to know that however. The same thing goes for a guy on the red team. Because he doesn’t know which point is the ‘correct’ choice for him, he has a good chance that he’ll head to the wrong one.

The other issue I have with the layout is that when both A and B are captured, the blue team has to meander through A or B to get to C. They invariably choose different paths and can run into opposition before they even get to C from a lone scout or spy, which is frustrating. A linear route for blue to take to C would be better.

In general, fun spaces and a decent theme, but the layout lets it down for me."

Hope this is useful for you.

-dh

drp · Apr 8, 2010

Acegikmo said:
I just got a mail from Valve, thought you guys might want to see it:

The other issue I have with the layout is that when both A and B are captured, the blue team has to meander through A or B to get to C. They invariably choose different paths and can run into opposition before they even get to C from a lone scout or spy, which is frustrating. A linear route for blue to take to C would be better.

ummm. gravel pit anyone?

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