This sums up the L4D boycott stupidity nicely

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All I say is: Wow. People are boycotting it and Australia gets a stupid censored version. Poor THEM.
 

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I don't normally like CTRL+ALT+DEL but I agree with this 100%. Boycotting a sequel to an awesome game is fail.
 

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That comparison doesn't really apply if they don't buy those games (and thus label themselves hypocrits). That was almost a valid arguement.

I think the point that the boycott is supposed to be making is that L4D2 is what L4D1 was supposed to be. There's a distinct difference (all be it limited due to the shit, redundant genre that is sports games) between Fifa 7 and Fifa 8. Fifa 7 was not advertised to develop over several months to make your money go further. Fifa 8 is made to more accurately represent the football league tables and player performances of the year. With increased graphics, physics, animations and GUI.

Whilst L4D2 does feature new weapons, maps and characters, comparing it to a shit, redundant genre of games does not justify the circumstances of L4D2's release.

If the developers of Fifa 10 promised a game that accurately applied the hot and cold player streaks throughout the current football season, new manager take overs, team funding and construction of new football pitches via monthly DLC (or what ever). Then you had 1 mid season DLC that updated players with booking stats, and at the end of the Season Fifa 11 is released. You would probably get a boycott of that too.
 
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JoshuaC

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Alot of this whole mess was dug in fact, by themselves.

1. The awesome post release support of TF2.
2. Boasting about how well supporting a game post release works.
3. Generally treating their community as people, and not just things they can market a generic recycled product to.

As it stands now, L4D is a mess of a game. The gameplay needs work, and trying to play with anyone who isn't a friend is akin to pulling teeth with your bare hands.

I don't know if I'm willing to pay for what L4D should've been.
 

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I don't think the critique really makes sense unless you're talking to the people who do shell out money for "<Franchise> <Sport> <Year>" titles.
 

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Note: Tim Buckley is horrible. He's about as funny as he is smart... And he's about as smart as dry concrete...


THAT said, I honestly gave up by now. People who still don't get why some of us opposed L4D2 are either genuinely thick or pretending to be. Either ways, at this point the arguments have been bounced off the table enough times that nobody can claim ignorance, so throwing them around AGAIN will be as futile as it was the first time.

PS: I don't buy "Maddens", or "flavor of the year" games. Thus Tim's horribly flawed logic is proven, shock and awe, to be horribly flawed.
 

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or, you know, he's just trying to make a funny. and make people laugh that don't give a shit about the whole thing. like me. who laughed.
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Caliostro

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or, you know, he's just trying to make a funny. and make people laugh that don't give a shit about the whole thing. like me. who laughed.

Except Tim Buckley is terrible at it. He gives up the punchline at the second panel (yes, Madden is a terrible investment by comparison. Then again buying toxic sludge seems like a good investment in comparison to Madden), his third panel is ambiguous and controversial at best, more flawed logic at worse, and the 4th panel is downright unnecessary and uninspired, dragging the joke for way too long for the sake of yet another attempt at being witty, which he isn't.
 

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Except Tim Buckley is terrible at it. He gives up the punchline at the second panel (yes, Madden is a terrible investment by comparison. Then again buying toxic sludge seems like a good investment in comparison to Madden), his third panel is ambiguous and controversial at best, more flawed logic at worse, and the 4th panel is downright unnecessary and uninspired, dragging the joke for way too long for the sake of yet another attempt at being witty, which he isn't.
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I think that what really sparked off gamers was the timing of their announcement. You don't announce the sequel until at least 2 months after the first was released. What happened was that most l4d players were already finding bugs and incomplete areas of the game, and then they were given the idea that valve was going to leave them in the un-finished beta-sludge until they buy l4d2. With valve's already high standard with tf2, they had just created a community of pansies and then slightly ticked them off. I mean, look at the whole hat saga. In WoW you don't get what you're looking for easily. Between the retard-checks and ninja-looters, many WoW players wait years to get what they wanted. Valve followers are spoiled, and take genius for granted.