Wiretap

[The Political Gamer]

Looking good but sure you are not getting ahead of yourself?

 

[Void]

Oh please, it's not like the spawns are going to drastically change.

 

[ANova]

looks very good

 

[Boylee]

As promised:

I think this is one of your sexiest models yet Rexy. Lovely stuff.

And yes, I am very jealous.

Spawn rooms look neat, love the ceiling configuration. Recessing those fluro lights is a great idea.

 

[Rexy]

Void had come to me in an advance about his custom intelligence model--but you too can have me put to work.

 

[Boylee]

Wow that's a generous offer if ever I heard one! Thanks!

I don't have a firm idea of what I'd want at the minute, hopefully I will by the time I hit B1.

/offtopic


Just out of interest Void do you have a custom particle effect planned for the intel when it's being carried? If not can I suggest some sort of soundwave effect or a ribbon of magnetic tape trailing behind the flag runner?

 

[Ravidge]

I like the spytech, it's very nicely done. The custom intel also brings the whole thing together. I have not played it but from the screens the area around briefcase/phone/recorder looks like it could be hard to navigate in a hurry (very limited space, in other words). Looking good though, can't wait to see where it ends up.

 

[Penguin]

I want to hear the conversation of the losing team play over the PA on map end.

 

[A Boojum Snark]

The double doorframes ~96 units apart are a little disconcerting because they are everywhere, and in particular the one place where it's a tall round one and a short square one.

 

[Void]

Alpha IV
- Heavy clipping
- Detailed spawns
- Added custom intel model by Rexy
- Fixed shadows
- Reworked area under bridge
- Various detailing
- Downgraded health at mid down to medium
- Added paint patches to ammo and health placement
- Various optimizing

http://forums.tf2maps.net/downloads.php?do=file&id=3189&act=down

 

[ANova]

Now that looks really good
puts pearl to shame

 

[Penguin]

Model note: Have the flag spin on it's back, not the bottom.

 

[Trotim]

...I'm not sure that custom CTF model is noticeable enough. In that one screenshot it looks exactly like the props behind it.

 

[Rexy]

...I'm not sure that custom CTF model is noticeable enough. In that one screenshot it looks exactly like the props behind it.

It spins. It's the only moving part of a static environment, I think we can give the human eye a little credit for noticing movement.

 

[Leminnes]

It spins. It's the only moving part of a static environment, I think we can give the human eye a little credit for noticing movement.

I have to agree. I noticed it just fine for the shear fact that it rotated AND that I knew where it was anyway.

 

[owly-oop]

the sentry spot under the ramp is fine IMO, people who complained were pie scouts who just want to run for the intel

 

[Rexy]

the sentry spot under the ramp is fine IMO, people who complained were pie scouts who just want to run for the intel

The map was still well contested, it is a good sentry spot, but it's an obvious one, and the overlooking pathways made it easy for soldiers and demos to take out sentries built there. Most of the action was still taking place in the middle parts of the map--just as it should be.

 

[Trotim]

Yeah, the intel can be seen quite easily, had to see ingame to be sure. Geez.

And I disagree that the most action is in the middle of the map - to me it seemed more like the battles were focused inside the bases with the occasional duel outside at mid. By removing the health kits from inside the bases and placing more inside the side buildings and splitting up the med health in the mid, I think that would change a lot.

 

[WastedMeerkat]

This corner isn't the same texture as the surrounding walls:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40004.jpg

You can walk under this ramp:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40005.jpg

Make these non-solid:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40006.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40007.jpg

Put a trigger_push on the light poles:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40008.jpg

This room seems to be useless. Put some ammo in it, perhaps?
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40009.jpg

A step down is kind of strange looking. Try making this a step up, instead:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40010.jpg

Jumping out of this isn't hard, but can be a little weird when you hit the ceiling.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40012.jpg
Make it like this instead:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4072938/ctf_wiretap_a40011.jpg

 

[gastrop0d]

I feel like there are too many passages and complexity inside the base.

Outside areas felt a little too spacious, for instance the roomy building next to the base could be smaller, and the distance between the bases a touch smaller. It just felt like a lot of time out in the open which really slowed things down.

I really like the bridge, its a great kind of center piece for the middle battle area. Basically i think if you shrink the area around the bases themselves; reduce the size of the side buildings, which brings the bases slightly closer together; remove some of the passages in the base or something to cut down the complexity of the base, I think the map will play much faster.