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Discussion in 'Site Discussion' started by YM, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. YM

    aa YM LVL100 YM

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    I don't know exactly how all this stuff works soo...

    Could we change our rotation to all valve maps and get the server verified so TF2 will assign randomers to us?

    I think this would be beneficial since as far as I'm aware our server is only used for testing, when we manually take control of the current maps. So the rotation is largely useless as it is, but if we could have a few of us jump in from chat early for an impromptu, we could get some randomers joining. Then when the map switches they may well stay.

    So my questions are these:

    1) Is there anything preventing us being able to do this (like it not liking any server plugins etc)?

    2) Does anyone have any objections to doing this?
     
  2. Sergis

    aa Sergis L666: ])oo]v[

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    randomers usually disapper anyway when we start events
     
  3. Seba

    aa Seba DR. BIG FUCKER, PHD

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    If we put our server on the quickplay list, there's a possibility that it'll be full often. Then we would have no choice but to kick every pubber in order to get an impromptu going, which might make people dislike the server. But oh well, I'm for it.
     
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  4. Mr. Wimples

    Mr. Wimples L6: Sharp Member

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    It's like herding lemmings into a blender.

    I like it.
     
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  5. Fr0Z3nR

    aa Fr0Z3nR Top Quacker

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    Our server is verified, but our custom cycle prevents us from getting randomers.


    ... I support this idea.
     
  6. Ravidge

    aa Ravidge Grand Vizier

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    Our server is verified and has all the needed server settings and flags to allow "quick play" players to arrive.

    The one and only thing that disables this feature for us is the custom maps. When we run frontier, lakeside and nightfall the system works. But not for any other of the maps in our current rotation.

    It takes about 3-4 initial players to "kickstart" the quickplay thing.

    Server staff will have to decide whether we remove customs from the rotation.
     
  7. Ravidge

    aa Ravidge Grand Vizier

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    Changing map can be done via rcon. So starting the impromtu is easy.
     
  8. theharribokid

    aa theharribokid

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    as an example of this yesterday we played barnblitz and the server filled, then badwater, then I set the next map to strata, we went from full to 5 vs 5.

    Random players dont stay for custom maps
     
  9. Crash

    aa Crash func_nerd

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    Depends on the filesize. We run a custom-map server and experience the same thing, however a quick-downloading map following a stock/ popular map is much more likely to keep them around.
     
  10. YM

    aa YM LVL100 YM

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    That makes me sad :(
     
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  11. Pocket

    aa Pocket I can fix it!

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    This may be part of the reason that Valve got in the habit of buying and adding their favorite customs as official maps in the first place; that's the only way the majority of players are going to bother playing them.

    Customs seem to do pretty well on servers meant for people to add to their favorites and then regularly play on — ones associated with clans or outside communities, for example, including those geared towards "casual" players. Since it usually just involves a one-time download and then an update every few months. I was in a group once that had a custom in its rotation that had been created by a friend of the admin and wasn't even available as a public download anywhere. The guy had clearly put a lot of work into it, and it probably could have been a popular map if he hadn't been so shy about it.
     
  12. Trotim

    aa Trotim

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    To be fair the map is TC (that nobody really likes or knows) and doesn't have a beta-level of detailing (that tends to make people stay much longer and at least try it out).

    I agree with steve though, back when I played like two years ago I frequented a German server that had most official maps as well as warpath and I think later swiftwater. Never noticed unusual player drops there
     
  13. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Well it's the TF2maps server, this has never been a problem before. We play custom maps, our rotation should be featured custom maps so that it represented our community. We make gameday announcements and players come to play custom maps. The only real problem is if the map is huge data wise and takes ages to download. I know the average TF2 player has the patience of a gnat, and that's not something we have control over.

    I don't know what people did after i set the custom rotation several months ago, but i do know that when i set a proper custom rotation of our featured maps on the server its population hovered between 8 and 16 players on afternoons/evenings with no events. Instead of sitting there empty, on dustbowl indefinately.
     
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  14. Fr0Z3nR

    aa Fr0Z3nR Top Quacker

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    See, I didn't see that. I know that we got a lot of people after the payload contest went out, but then it died down.

    I'm for making our server stock, then start injecting good custom maps into the rotation. Perhaps our motd should also include something about custom maps.
     
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  15. grazr

    aa grazr Old Man Mutant Ninja Turtle

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    Sure, there were times we didn't even make event announcements for impromptu's and instead had to kick public players to get all our regs in. Our server was seeing 5+ hours of constant use after events.